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PostSubject: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:43 am

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PostSubject: Question    Tue Feb 17, 2015 9:34 pm

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Who were the four most influential people that helped shape Latin America in to what it is today also what did they do how did they do it what did they lead to in the end and also why did these four most influential people do what they did if they knew the punishment from what they were going to face (like the first two)?
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:50 am

'Who were the four most influential people that helped shape Latin America in to what it is today also what did they do how did they do it what did they lead to in the end and also why did these four most influential people do what they did if they knew the punishment from what they were going to face (like the first two)?'

Toussaint Louverture was a self educated revolutionary who led the first slave rebellion in Haiti. This sparked the effort for independence in Haiti. He was killed, seen as an enemy to Napoleon.

Father Miguel Hidalgo was the face of the rebellion for Mexicos freedom from Spain. Like Loverture he led the revolt against his nations parent country.

Jose de San Martin and Simon Bolivar both led movements in several countries in South America against their parent countries.

In short all the these rebel leaders led movements in the new world against European nations for independence. They were revolutionaries and were therefore willing to die for their cause.

Question: Describe the social structure in the new world and explain why it was a cause for rebellion.
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:11 am

In Latin American societies, The social structure was based entirely on birth. The most powerful members of society were peninsulars, those born in spain. Following them were the Creoles, white people born in Latin America. Mestizos and mulattos were third, and native peoples and slaves were the lowest. Only Peninsulars could have the higher administrative offices in governments, causing immense displeasure among the other classes, especially creoles, as they knew more about the land and people than the peninsular class. By rebelling against their homelands, the peninsulars would lose their power and influence over Latin America and it could be ruled instead by creoles or the other lower groups. This rebelling also had the potential to allow more movement within the class groups as new opportunities within government and trade would arise with the overthrowing of the Europeans and establishing an independent government.

How did the Enlightenment and other revolutions influence Latin American revolutions?
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:15 am

"Who were the four most influential people that helped shape Latin America in to what it is today also what did they do how did they do it what did they lead to in the end and also why did these four most influential people do what they did if they knew the punishment from what they were going to face (like the first two)?"

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Toussaint Louverture
-sparked revolution in Hati
-killed because he was seen as a enemy of Napoleon B. of France

Father Miguel Hidalgo
- Face of the rebellion for mexico to gain independence from spain
- Led revolt against parent country

Jose de San Martin & Simon Bolivar
- Both led revolts against parent countries for Independence of part of South America

All fought for the freedom of their land from their parent countries
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:35 am

Answer: One of the main reasons for Latin American Revolutions were the Social Problems apparent in their society. Social class was based strictly on birth and there were no real ways to truly go up in society. At the top of the Latin American social class was the Peninsulars, people that were born in Spain; after them, it only went down as the amount of European blood in you did, leaving Native Americans and African slaves at the bottom and people of mixed race somewhere in the middle.
Another main reason for the Revolutions in Latin America was the power shifts happening between the New World and the Old World. The Europeans were beginning to lose control over their colonies in the New World who were trying to seek Independence from them. Most of which was brought on or motivated by the American and French Revolution, almost always beginning with the Middle Classes rising up.

Question: Why is the revolution in Haiti different than those in the rest of Latin America? (Geographical, political, and social reasons)
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:49 am

"Why is the revolution in Haiti different than those in the rest of Latin America? (Geographical, political, and social reasons)"
Haiti was different from the other Revolutions because it was not part of the Latin American mainland, thus it had no nearby influences or help to gain, it had to rely completely on it's own ideas and forces. It went against a fellow revolutionary state, France, that was quite powerful at the time, instead of having to face the weakened Spanish like most Latin American countries did. Haiti was the first successful slave revolt, creating the first African American established state in the Western Hemisphere under Louverture as a republic.

Question: How can the Communist Manifesto be related to the Latin American revolutions and revolts?
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PostSubject: Latin American Revolutions   Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:25 am

"How can the Communist Manifesto be related to the Latin American revolutions and revolts?"

Answer: The Communist Manifesto can be related to the Latin American revolutions and revolts in the way that they are both involving a social structure that differentiate the two, leading towards the conflicts. In both, we can see a similarity where the lower class rises up against the upper class. The Communist Manifesto tells us how the proletarians are having to depend on the bourgeoisie, who own's most of the society's wealth and production, and having to give them their labor power in order to live; similar to how the slaves in Latin Americas are the lowest of the social rankings that tells them what role they play in the society, resulting with both wanting independence from these ruling classes.  

Question: What are some examples that contributed to the power shift from the Old to the New World? And how did they contribute?
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:10 am

"Describe the social structure in the new world and explain why it was a cause for rebellion."

The social structure of the New World begins with the Peninsulares, those born in Spain, at the top of the pyramid, which allowed them to have the highest government positions. The second highest in rankings would be the creoles, who were people born in Latin America with European blood, so to say they were mixed with the Spanish, French, or Portuguese. After the creoles are the Mestizos and the Mulattoes, who share the next position in the social structure: Mestizos, being people born with Native American and European blood, and the Mulattoes, being a mix between Europeans and Africans. The lowest of the rankings concludes to the enslaved people, the African and Native American slaves. With a society based on your blood, where you are born into, that tells you what your role in society is, is bound to cause conflicts and rebellions. You are born into your rank and you can't really do anything about it, it was predestined. Those in the lower rankings of the social structure are told that they are what they were born into and are expected to stay there and do what they are asked, most likely involving labor work in harsh conditions for long hours, in which you are not paid, you are to do as you are told with no say.
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:52 pm

"What are some examples that contributed to the power shift from the Old to the New World? And how did they contribute?"

Some examples that contributed to the power shift from the Old to the New World is how European countries dominated the Americas and developed kingdoms, but soon eventually after that they lose lands in the Americas and their power becomes weaker. Another couple examples would be how France loses power during the French Revolution, England loses to USA, and how Spain loses a ton of land and wealth. How these all contribute is they all begin in the higher ranking of power but then eventually as time goes on they all begin to move down and lose their power and everything they have.

Question: Explain how Toussaint Louverture and Father Miguel Hidalgo were remarkable people.
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:14 pm

"Explain how Toussaint Louverture and Father Miguel Hidalgo were remarkable people."

Toussaint Louverture or the 'the Haitian Sensation' helped slaves in Haiti become free and although he was sent to France to be killed so he didn't get to see the final result, it created a state with freedom to slaves.

Father Miguel Hidalgo, the symbol for Mexico's independence, was very similar to Louverture because he also led a revolt, but it was against the Spanish, but died before he could see the result which was also a state that gave freedom to the people.


"Describe the social structure in the new world and explain why it was a cause for rebellion."

The social structure was very specific in Latin America. The highest class were the Peninsulares. The peninsulares were the European born people whi came over to the colonies, usually to control the people or to fulfill some government role. Next were the Creoles; the creoles were the Europeans that were born in America, the creoles also filled up the government positions in Latin America. The next class contains two different people. The Mestizos who had Latin American and European blood and the Mulattos who had African and European blood; these people would with continuing working for people (but usually got the better jobs) or depending on their 'master' they would be set free to do whatever. The last class consisted of slaves, both African and Latin American. Because of this structure you could not move up (you could move down) so you were stuck to a certain job which caused uprisings from the last two classes to have fair rights and freedom.

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How does the revolutions in Latin America effect the old and new world? (Socially, politically, and economically)


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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:15 pm

Question: How does the revolutions in Latin America affect the old and new world? (socially, politically, and economically)

During the revolutions in Latin America, the lower and middle classes rose up and revolted against the Europeans. Even though they were in the lower class groups, they wanted independence so bad that they had the courage to rise up against the Europeans, making the lower class higher in society. With the colonies in the New World gaining independence, the Europeans were loosing their control of the New World. Their political and economical ties were being broken and therefore, they were kicked out of the New World.

Question: What was the Gran Columbia and why does it not exist today?
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:29 pm

The Gran Columbia is a United Nation that was founded in 1819 when Simon Bolivar fought for the independence of Columbia and made up of the countries, Venezuela, Panama, Columbia, and Ecuador. This area had just a brief existence during the war. Gran Columbia does not exist today because of political differences and regional interests which led to the breakup of the Gran Columbia.

Question: What were the big ideas during this time in Latin America?


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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:44 pm

Question: What were the big ideas during this time in Latin America?

One big idea was the rigid social structure. Most of the population were considered in the middle and lower classes and they had no mobility and they couldn’t participate in politics. During the Latin American revolutions, these groups will rise and fight for their independence. Another big idea is that the French and American revolutions encouraged the Latin American revolutions by giving them a symbol of hope and freedom to break away from Europe’s control. Also the enlightenment encouraged the people to question their government and the means by which they were being controlled. The last big idea was the shift in power from the Old World to the New World. The Old World first came in and conquered several colonies in the New World and they controlled it. Then when the New World fought for their independence the Old World no longer had control and were kicked out.
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:17 pm

"How did the Enlightenment and other revolutions influence Latin American revolutions?"

The revolutions of the French and Americans against their holding countries influenced the Latin American revolutions. In all of these revolutions, the ideas of the enlightenment of change in political power and the change in the social structures sparked the rise of the middle class to revolt. In Latin America this would be the mestizos, mulattos, and the natives/slaves, like Toussaint Louverture who led the first successful slave revolution in Haiti. The American revolution sparked the French, and combined these revolutions were able to cause an urge for revolution in these Latin American countries.

How did a shift in power from the Old World to the New World encourage these Latin American Revolutions?
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:26 pm

How does the revolutions in Latin America affect the old and new world? (socially, politically, and economically)

The power from the old world was being shifted over to the new world. As the previously once powerful countries, such as Spain, France, and Britain lost their hold on places in the Americas, (Haiti, Mexico, and places in South America) the political power would shift from the old world countries to self government of the new world. Socially, a rise of the middle class erupted, which sparked these revolutions. The slaves and natives rose against the holds of these old world countries.
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:54 pm

"What are some examples that contributed to the power shift from the Old to the New World? And how did they contribute?"

Several nations fought for independence from parent countries. This switch in ownership and control of land from a parent nation, to the newly independent nation itself was the cause for loss of power in the old world and gain of power in the new world.
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PostSubject: Tanner Gann   Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:36 pm

Question: Describe the social structure in the new world and explain why it was a cause for rebellion.

Their werent just a solid three or four groupings in Latin America, in the video it is mentioned that over 100 different races were produced during this era. With so many groups its seems many of them had no clue what their role in society was, and if they did it was probably a miserable existence. This led to revolutions, and such a satisfaction for a social hierarchy especially in cases of which some believe they should have more rights than the foreigners which madison put in her answer which I am adding on to.

Question: How did the Enlightenment and other revolutions influence Latin American revolutions?

The enlightenment era did have a significant effect on Latin America and its revolutions. It gave them the basics of their new thinking, and about how they deserved the right of sovereignty, and how they deserved certain rights as human beings. All these things were brought up by the Enlightenment diffusion throughout the world not just in Latin America. Although having said all this the most important aspect is Latin America seeing other revolutions occur right in front of them. For example in France, which held land in the Americas faced their own revolution, and in the case of North America they also saw revolution, and rebellion, all adding fuel to their rebellious and enlightened influenced fire.

My Question: Describe, in Mexican society, the Bourgeoisie, and the proletarians relationship. (hint Hierarchy/Social structure) Explain how this strengthens the viewpoint of the author of Communist Manifesto?
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:19 am

"What are some examples that contributed to the power shift from the Old to the New World? And how did they contribute?"

Enlightened thinkers such as my man the Haitian sensation led to this shift through repeated exposure to literature and ultimately developing a way in which they could formulate and present ideas, whether it was through war or pushes for more democratic or independent government styes. Another contributor to the power shift was the unjust imbalance of power in Latin American social structure. This blatant, poorly justified power distribution was a recipe for disaster in that it didn't consider the demographic deficit higher class citizens suffered against the abundant lower classes.

Describe the social structure in the new world and explain why it was a cause for rebellion.

The new world social structure was a hierarchical setup in which citizens with more European blood held the upper hand in power. The reason it caused rebellion was it was clearly and unfairly biased as well as not very realisticly reasoned. While in Europe the full blooded Europeans were clearly more populous than any other race, the New World was the opposite. Even if the full blooded Europeans felt entitled to more political authority in the new world they were heavily outnumbered by Native Americans. This demographic upset combined with enlightened thinking led to rebellion.

Describe the ways in which all of South America developed from two colonies into what it is today.


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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:25 am

Question: Describe the social structure in the new world and explain why it was a cause for rebellion.

The social structure in Latin America can be described as a complicated system where Peninsular, Spaniards born in Spain, are on top, and creoles, Spaniards born in the new world, are underneath, with the mestizos and mulattos are below them with native slaves at the bottom. This was a cause for rebellion because Latin American residents were tired of the Spanish control and wanted equality for all men, which the idea originated from enlightened thinkers.

Question: "What are some examples that contributed to the power shift from the Old to the New World? And how did they contribute?"

Some examples that contributed to the power shift was the leadership of Toussaint Louveture from Haiti who created took land away from the French and became the first African to create state. This contributed to the shift in power because it took land from the Old World and gave it to the new World. Another example would be Father Miguel Hidalgo who lead the masses into revolt, which eventually lead to land lost by Spain. That means that the power shifted from Spain to Latin America.

My Question: How did the American Revolutions and the French revolutions inspire Latin America to revolt?


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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:26 am

Question: Describe, in Mexican society, the Bourgeoisie, and the proletarians relationship. (hint Hierarchy/Social structure) Explain how this strengthens the viewpoint of the author of Communist Manifesto?

The bourgeoisie are the higher class and economically upper-handed citizens in society. In the Western world, the bourgeoisie are a social class characterized by their ownership of capital. They are generally owners of factories and plantations. They also control and dictate the proletariat (lower class). The proletariats are the working class in society who lack leadership of means of production. They have been through both pre and post ages of revolution. The bourgeoisie are exploiting the proletariats for their cheap wagons as well as manual labor. The role of capital in society is to provide a basis for the modern family and the role of labor is to provide workers with money and a job. By making property common it alters its social character. The social norm is that the bourgeoisies control and dictate the proletariats. The viewpoint of the author of Communist Manifesto makes it clear that the opposite is actually correct.

Question: How did the American Revolutions and the French revolutions inspire Latin America to revolt?

Both the American and French Revolution were the products of Enlightenment ideals that emphasized the idea of natural rights and equality. Both areas suffered social and economic hardships that led to the realization that something must be done to topple the hierarchy and put power back into the hands of the people. The American and French Revolutions were significant in the fact that they were both a catalyst and facilitator for the Latin American revolt. Locals who favored independence had been inspired by events on the island of Saint Domingue following the French Revolution in 1791, when slaves dismantled the plantation system and established the world’s first post-colonial nation under black leadership. Independence movements developed more quickly in some Latin American countries than others; Mexico's first uprising against a government loyal to the Spanish king took place in 1810. The Latin American revolts did not succeed without conflict and loss of life, as troops loyal to Spain resisted those fighting for independence.

My Question: What were some flaws in the Latin American social structure?


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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:30 am

Question: What were some flaws in the Latin American social structure?


Some flaws were that the people with the most power were those called the peninsulares, or the people born in spain that traveled to the americas. Whereas the people actually born in latin america, as well as the african slaves, had no power at all. Therefore, in order to gain even small amounts of power in latin america, you had to have European blood in your family, such as the creoles and the mulattoes.

Question: What are some examples that contributed to the power shift from the Old World to the New World? And, how did they contribute?


Some things that led to the power shift were, the american and french revolutions, as well as different people that led the masses against their "parent countries". These people are people such as Father Miguel Hidalgo who led the masses of Mexican natives against the Spanish crown. He died shortly before Mexico won, however he became the symbol of mexican independence.



My Question: Describe some factors of motivation for the latin american revolutions.


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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:41 am

Question: How can the Communist Manifesto be related to the Latin American revolutions and revolts?

Answer: The Communist Manifesto and the Latin American revolutions both involve a social structure that differentiates the two, which leads towards conflict. We can also see a similarity of the lower and middle classes rising to power, such as in the Communist Manifesto, the proletarians rising to power against the bourgeoisie; and the slaves in Latin American rising up and rebelling against the upper class and driving away any European crown.

Question: What are some examples that contributed to the power shift from the Old World to the New World? And, how did they contribute?

Answer: There where many forces that contributed to the power shift, such as the Enlightenment thinker, Toussaint Louverture. Louverture, being a former slave, made it his mission to end slavery in Haiti and eventually led the first successful slave revolt. This, along with his exposure to literature, developed a way to formulate and present ideas for more democratic and independent government styles. Another contribute to the shift in power was the loss of rebellions and revolutions on the European side, such as Haiti overcoming France and Mexico overcoming the Spanish crown.

My Question: How did the social structure in Latin America politically impact the New World, and how did it contribute to the revolutions that took place?
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:12 am

Question: What were some flaws in the Latin American social structure?
Answer: Flaws of the social structure include the fact that it was very rigid making it impossible for the people of low class to move up in social status. This was because the structure was based on birth which determined what role you would have in society.

Question: Describe some factors of motivation for the latin american revolutions.
Answer: Some factors of motivation for the Latin American revolutions were the French and American Revolutions that let then see that it could be done. The next thing they needed was a person to motivate them and lead the rebellion. People such as Toussaint Louverture, Miguel Hidalgo, Jose De San Martin and Simon Bolivar helped in doing this in the Americas.
My Question: In what ways was the world power shifting from the old world to the new world?
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PostSubject: Re: Snow Day Discussion 2/17 6th Period   Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:22 am

Question: What are some examples that contributed to the power shift from the Old World to the New World? And, how did they contribute?

Answer: One example that contributed to the power shift from the Old World to the New World was Toussaint Louverture. He was a former slave who taught himself to read and write. He led the first successful slave revolt and changed government styles. One more example was Father Miguel Hidalgo who motivated the masses against European power. He also led a revolution against the Spanish and was a symbol of Mexican independence.

Question: Describe the social structure in the new world and explain why it was a cause for rebellion.

Answer: The social structure of Latin America was based on birth. The Peninsulars were people who had the most power and had high government jobs. Mestizos and Mulattoes had Native American and European blood. And on the bottom were the African slaves who had no economic values. The Latin America people wanted all men to have equality and rebelled against the Spanish.

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